heyas! mason, you are absolutely correct! the fool things don't remember their parents. ungrateful children! :) well... i'm glad i did it the long, slow, hard way then ;) for my thumbnail pic, i moved the props away from the head (didnt want that in the picture), then pasted to background. put the props back (off camera), saved one, then the other; did a combo and changed the name of the rsr thumbnail file to match it.