JohnRender thanks for the tip done that :) Also running a Antivur for safety. Windows 2000 is deffendly nothing for me Windows XP i plan to give a try will need to get a new HD first so i can install there and see if i'm happy with it. But all toghether i might be better off to wait till i can get a complete new system might save a little to that way. Thanks for all the help and is much apreciated. Sprinter