There are always newbee's coming to Bryce so your tut will be useful burgi for pointing too in the future when someone asks. This is something I've been told about on several occasions but I keep forgeting "how to" by the time I come to do it, so I need a tut too. 8) Catlin BTW, cottontraders make really good stuff, is there a chance of getting a discount burgi for your R'osity friends? I had to ask.................lol 8D