wintermond, the postrendered stuff is cool, and someone even came up with a mesh to put the pics on and then put on your character, but I didn't mess with that idea. Check out kuzboro's hair and some of the other artists who have managed to create some great styles. Basically what I'm saying is, the pink cosmo program is great for the post-rendered stuff, but to have a model that you can see the hair from all sides in 3D you need to have a hair model on the head, not just the picture. Do a search on Cosmo and you will get a wealth of ideas from the forum, they have asked all the questions already..lol. That's what I did. Have fun, Marque