Hey DRac - Similar situation on another site - (nameless3d commune) gave my freebie a 5 rating cuz my page was down that day and they couldnt download - this had no bearing on the model - but gave it a shitty rating - not for nothing , they must have liked it enough to want to download, and shit, its free, ... sorry this has been bugging me and had to vent - via your thread I feel better now whew! Drac as usual I love your Rant Posts... Please dont ever stop Bitching or Bryceing, cuz Im sure I speak for the majority here at the forum - I look forward to both roch222