thats not what im saying at all.. Im saying find a free one somewhere.. I dont know every free model site on the web.. But we would need something very detailed. FREE is the key word.. Not have someone pay for it.. I never no where in that post implied or meant for it to sound like I was implying someone to buy a model.. Vue does not have the best lighting in the rendering world and all im saying is with a few creative people we might be able to come up with something.. Ever see a 3D Max HDRI render.. Thats lighting.. Vue of course isnt a $3600 dollar program but I think with some of the people here on the site we might be able to come up with something close on our own.. Then others can learn how to do it for themselves..