Okay, not yet, but if history repeats itself, will we see Poser 5 for OSX on sale at Amazon.com for only $99 in January or February? And changing the subject back... if you download an 800M file, how do you get a printed manual? How about a CD in case your hard drive crashes and you need to re-install Poser? Where's the fancy box to proudly show on your shelf (and it is a nice box, after all... listing all kinds of features that won't really work correctly until Poser 6).