What is realism? The dictionary definition is: Representing or viewing things as they are in reality. Being a human is reality. However, even though we are 99.999% the same genetically as humans we all are unique in our ideas and thinking. What one person see as reality another does not. What is true for a child no longer holds true when it becomes an adult. If this is a discussion of philosophy it could take forever and many books to come to any conclusions as a team. In general I would not go to the 3ds forum and convey the idea that 3ds is has realism defects in my eyes. Why would I do that? Everyone at that forum would wonder I am sure, what my view of reality really is. I have learned that many do not see things in the same perceptions as I. Some people have selective seeing only seeing fault or praise based on certain bias. Others may only hear what they want to hear based on personal desire. On and on it goes and has since the beginning I think. Vue is a fantastic program and what the degree of realism you as an artist can bend the program to attain is your personal victory over the math involved. Cost is not the issue IMHO, perception is. Now I perceive the attached image of 3 spheres very real. Others however, may not. Some may view me as a real pain in the neck others may not. The fans of Marilyn Monroe may think she should have used her real name Norma Jean to maintain more realism others really dont care and only where interested in there perceptions of her beauty. Why not a contest? That can be a very good way to test your theory and learn more as well. Once again good luck in your search for reality. `shoop