So UV mapping the model early on when it is in its rough uncomplicated state would not help you then? Even though the UV mapping would carry through to the final complex model. Nope. It wouldn't even be possible. It's done with lofts, each of which would have their own seperate UVMap which would make no sense to the final shape. But no worries, mate. Dave: I got a headache last night and had to stop on finishing the trouser leg which I'm needing for auditions. GF: Nope, it's not for the figure I'm making myself. That one, he's a bit too -- err -- vertically challenged to be a proper samurai B^)