My opinion is that it is not possible to obtain in Vue the realism of the pictures shown by ibanezcollector, done with C4D for instance. By realism we can say a picture looking like a photo, as some which were presented above. The reason is there is no GI and radiosity and hdri in Vue. Of course we can fake them, but in that case huge rendering times are necessary since we need high quality renders (I mean rendering times > 100h for a single sphere !). One important thing is also to model the environment surrounding the objects of a scene : the environment will reflect in the objects and add to realism as we can see on ibanezcollector pic of 3 balls; this pic could be done in Vue but it should be necessary to model all environment or to add a semi-sphere with a mapped picture on it : again huge rendering time with Vue which is limiting the possibilities ! An other point, the quality of models, tends to increase rendering times. Could be interesting to have a contest on that topic :=p One of the first time I see a thread concerning realism in Vue most of the time people only want to do landscapes with Vue ;=) Yves