Lyrra: I'm using Amapi 5. It goes to tris almost as a default. I start with quads, then by the time I export in 3DS, take it into Poser for fitting, export it to .obj, and back throug a few times, I get tris. I think I'm going to try a new method later if I have time that may allow quads on the imports and exports. I gotta get the new version. Someday when I win the lottery... Caly: The pull down in front is a morph (actually two morphs) one for the pants, one for the underware. I've got them both down in the last pic. The underwear's default is almost straight across.