No wonder I was glad to see you back in the forum! :-) Critiques makes someone improve. And for me this was a great tutorial. I greatly thank you for the critique. By the way, just remembered, I sent one experiment to a friend of mine (the sun was directly behind the camera). If he still has 'em I'll post it tonight. I don't know if that'll help you or not; but it's certainly helping me! :-) Again, many thanks. nish