That probably would have been the simple route karen1573 :) I downloaded them all to my laptop....it's a dialup and slow, but I got them all :) Fortunately this doesn't happen often. Seems to be unique to one of the freesites. My main machine is on DSL. I got the Norton security when I started getting those Windows Messenger pops on my desktop. I've had no problems since getting Norton, so I'm loathe to ever disable it.