Finally, when people say that Don has no clothing, I wonder if they have ever counted the number of clothing items that come with Poser 5. If they did, they would see that Don has 34 pieces of conforming clothing and 6 pieces of clothing props. Not counting a bodysuit (which would be nice to have), this is MORE clothing for Don than is avilable in Mikes Clothing Paks 1 & 2 plus the Suit Coat Pack. What we really need is more textures for Dons existing clothing. Together with Dons ability to use P4 items, and his new conforming clothing, I think there is a lot of unexplored potential there. BTW, fauve and elgyfu - VERY nice work on the faces.