yeah I just read the critic on Lady Silvermage, and have to say, I do agree with it... but... remember Poser 4 and Poser 4 ProPack both do NOT do refraction, or reflection well at all. (poser 5 does in a fashion, but its not the most spectacular) All that has to be painted, or use a photoshop plugin like Aurora if you use Poser 4. So she's at a bit of a disadvantage there. I'd like to know what the camera settings were on the image.