quote "Good call Bijou. I don't want criticism from someone who does not have a working knowledge of the program I'm using." That's how I think most of the time too. Its hard to appreciate the work I put into modeling and shaders if you haven't got any idea of the work that's involved in it. When I want an art directors critique, a person that's in the industry, I'll go to someone I know that's in the industry whose opinion I can respect, not someone that hides behind anonymity. When I want a fellow artists critique, I want to know what programs they have experience with. I want them to be able to provide me feedback and most importantly... TIPS on how to fix my image, technical tips that come from someone that knows the tools I am working with. Poser is definitely not anyone's friend with a lot of this stuff. Realism is best tried in other programs, and that's why I use Carrara to render and not Poser. That being said... I think its a feat when someone is able to get something really photoreal out of Poser, its really hard to do. Its something to brag about, even.