Firstly, it is good to hear that news of CL's demise has been greatly exaggerated. Second, in response to 'thip', with whom I agree for the most part, there will always be a need for the "do-it-yourself-from-scratch" guys. Despite the macro advances in computers, there's still a bunch of electronics engineers painstakingly designing every nanometer of every new cpu - circuit by circuit, basic component by component. The same goes for 3D modeling. Yes, the end user may not need to do the gruntwork for each model, but the creation of such models must start somewhere. This may become more of a task for businesses rather than individuals in the future, but even then there are a myriad of circumstances where the necessary model, motion, texture, or whatnot is unavailable. The only recourse would be "do-it-yourself-from-scratch". Point at hand: I need 'antique' Japanese items (tansu, futon, tatami, noren, shoji, lanterns, bowls, trays, and so on). You find me a place to buy or download all of these items in various forms and you can have my firstborn. ;) They don't exist in any quantity (or quality in many cases). Therefore, do-it-yourself-from-scratch is the only recourse. Maybe one day there'll be an inexpensive device that can scan in all of the parts of a complex object and reconstruct it as a well-laid-out 3D model on a computer, but not anytime soon (enough)! Kuroyume

C makes it easy to shoot yourself in the foot. C++ makes it harder, but when you do, you blow your whole leg off.

 -- Bjarne Stroustrup

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