Well not that I have anything against rundna and I don't, But I think a professional lab should have been contracted to do the poser 5 figures. I think poser 5 needs a speed patch too. Other then that I think they greatly inprouved the product, But it could use some more improvments too. Daz needs lots of improuvments they rely too much on hosted products and not enough on thier, sure Mike 3 is comming out and I look forward to it. But I think Daz needs to hire professional artists to crank out more of thier own product line. serious I think DAZ must have 1 or 2 people working for them.