The sad part is that Cath's message was pretty damn hysterical. The peni (I guess that is the word that was agreed upon) were done in a non-erotic, very humorous manner. There was absolutely nothing sexual about them at all, unless you internalized the sexuality yourself. The "troll" post I question as to whether it was a real troll or not. Playing devil's advocate, the person in question came in here and posted THEIR opinion on something (in a very poorly worded manner, IMO). Their view (very non-politically correct by almost all standards) is a legitimate view, although one that most will not agree with. The ISSUE presented was a valid issue for discussion, the manner in which it was presented was very poor. Unfortunately, the return fire pretty much drowned out any formal/civil discussion. And to be fair, there were incriminations that the person inquestion was acting rather troll-like in a related thread, so they may have truly been a real troll, and not just someone who was/is very niave (um, I don't think that is spelled correctly). - Ray