LOL Who me? Never! :P I do it the easy way, I only make what i see, if you saw offscree, you'd see a big box and some walls and a ton of floating trees...my pc can be slow so to make the actual hill that the trees and castle sit on slows it down, grins so this is a floating castle, hidden by something like 50 some trees...LOL Thanks Everyone for all the great comments! grins and goes back to playin.....errrrr work winks