LaurieA, I know you're smart enough not to take the opinion of one person as an actual indictment. Your textures ROCK! And your freebies are appreciated. I agree that MM's list includes many outstanding products, I've bought several myself, but you make a point...things like textures can be so crucial. I recently purchased Karanta's beautiful and unusual reflection maps, which can be used to amazing effect. I value them and use them more than several meshes and character sets I have.