I was fortunate enough to meet Ringo at Siggraph. People, let me tell you. He is one heck of a nice guy. I could party with that dude... Yo! Uh... That was California speak. :) I remember testing the Poser plugin for RDS. Damn... I forgot to put that one on my resume. Thanks for the memory jog. MAN was that thing S-L-O-W (the plugin as well as my brain). If someone is putting a plugin together for Carrara I'm sure it will be much better than what RDS had. I say "if" because I don't want to misslead anyone into thinking I know anything about a plugin being written. If memory serves my right, the plugin was slow because of the RDS code. It would be way faster in Carrara. *** No toxic chemicals were dumped into any rivers (small or large) while writing this thread. *** Cheers, Joe www.3-AXIS.com