Since Rosity is the true 'flea market' of the 3D world, where anyone can sell anything, you have to put up with junk. There are pearls in the rubbish heap, you just have to look for them. The downward spiral is not sudden at all - it's been going on for a long time. But at the same time, the best stuff is gettign even better as the top end get even better at making stuff. When someone tries to sell a primitive 'table' made up of a few vertices slapped together in a basic modeler, for $15 or something, it gives me a good laugh. In 3DS format if you're not careful. And then you find Quarker's incredible hair for $6.95 and you go 'Oooh yeah!' Or BAT outfits for $5! :] Fish