Gabriel, I understand your point and agree with you. But my point is that in the first 2 years, when I was learning, it all went out as free stuff. I only went to DAZ when I had something I believed was worth the money and the months of work I put into it. That's probably what a lot of merchants are NOT doing. IOW, they're selling what should be free. mac PS small correction 'then you released at daz afterwards, and now have another product here' No, both products are at DAZ.