If you use booleans in max, the trick is to make sure that the A and B objects have the same number of vertices. For example, if you subtract a 50-sided sphere from a 32-sided one, it'll be a mess, but if both are 50-sided (or 32-sided), it'll be more acceptable to poser. I keep hearing that booleans are evil. Well, I use 'em day and night and have never had major problems. Although, if possible, I tend to avoid spherical or rounded objects and uses splines instead. mac PS You might want to up the # of sides there anyway. Even in the max render, I can see the chopped edges on the front red cutouts. And if you can see them in max, poser will eat it for breakfast.