wolf359...it's KAI not KIA. The reason some put down Bryce's interface is that they have never bothered to (1)learn it nor (2)understand the why of it. The doodads are there for a reason..not just to look cute. Bryce's interface is brilliant. (Poser's is pretty but is not very efficient) Just a couple of points out of dozens: (1) Bryce is layered. How deep you go depends on your expertise. Most other programs have all the functionality at the same level which can be cluttered and confusing. (2) Bryce is brilliant for beginners. They don't have to mess with x, y, and z. The default setup and direction of the edit controls matches. (3) Off-document edit controls means there's no nightmare of click-dragging the wrong object. (4) Single-view only is not a hardship, especially when with ONE easily-remembered keypress you can get another view, and one more keypress to center and zoom on the selection. Vue's 4-up view on the other hand is difficult to see detail and ALL the views update when you zoom in on one which slows the interface down considerably. Bryce DOES need some work. It needs object heirarchy and subcategories in Skies as well as more work in the terrain editor. Other than that it's nearly perfect!