Phantast, I thought of that as a possibility after I posted my question. It seems like a reasonable way to do it. So you work in default size then when done change it to a bigger size to save. And this gives the image better details right? I mean you can see the stuff better and they look good. I've found that when I zoom in on something and render it - it looks horrible. Thanks I think I may try this way with this challenge if I can get it looking right! Ang