Thanks for the tips. Ummm, this is going back a ways, but does anyone remember the old Commodore Amiga? I remember (and this is many years ago) an image that was often used to show off the machine's graphics capabilities. It was a silver ball floating in the sky. It was highly reflective, but very sharp and detailed. (Or has my human memory improved the image with time?) I think I have seen similar images on the Internet, but again it was years ago and I don't know what platform or app was used. Anyone know what I am talking about, and can Bryce do something like that? I tried it using different silver materials and the tips above, which provide interesting results, but often my silver ball looks more like it's made of glass! I do make sure that fog and mist are turned off and have sky shadows up pretty high. I don;t know, something seems to be missing. The pictures I am talking about look like a shiny silver "pinball" floating in the sky. Anyway, thanks for the tips! RayRaz, how did you make those strange objects in your images? They are wild! Best to all... Does anyone remember the Amiga?