rreynolds, Very good post. Well-thought out and elegantly put. So much different from some of the inane gibberings we've had to put up with in the past. Just to throw out a general line, think about this. Look at the PC from DAZ's POV for a second. What are they trying to do? Give away as much as they can for $1.99? Nope - try again. Get a bunch of loyal customers who fork out $80 (or whatever it costs) a year? Right! (You win a coconut). So how do they intend to make sure you keep on paying them a yearly amount of cash to be a member? Well, I have no idea, but I would hazard a guess. I'd imagine they're going to keep throwing in as much new stuff as they can, as often as they can, and make it worth your while to keep renewing. That's the only sensible option for them. Otherwise, next year, the PC won't have any renewals. One thing to bear in mind is that this is a very slow time of year. It's the time when staff want to be lying on the beach on vacation, and the retail slump is a typical feature of august. I'd hang on in for a while to see what comes up in september/october. Oh, and one more thought. I'd bet my wagon and pony that PC members might have some financial advantage when it comes to buying plug-ins for DAZ|Studio too. mac