rreynolds, I wouldn't feel guilty about it, if I were you. Everyone uses poser in a different way. Everyone has a different budget. And everyone buys what they need or what they can. So, if it's not for you, opt out. You cetainly won't be the only one who joined just for the sale. But I think your experience does show something about clubs in general and the DAZ policy in particular. Any 'club', whether it's an online store, supermarket offering 2 for 1, or regular store having a promo sale, is basically trying to do the same thing - get customers into their store. Studies show that once you're in the door, you'll ALWAYS spend more than you intended to. And in your case, it obviously worked. Not that this is a problem. You got a great deal. DAZ got a loyal customer, (in the sense that you're clearly well-disposed towards them), and they made some money out of it. Out of 100 such customers, I imagine at least 50 will renew their PC, and DAZ is building up a huge client base from the whole thing. That's what it's all about. And I'll add one long-range prediction. I bet DAZ are smart enough to come up with something in the future that's SO irresistible, you'll join up again. LOL. mac