Thanks Caligula for responding so quickly, the best i can come up with is a rather small, undetailed jpg i uploaded to one of my servers. and it gets worse, hehehe its a partial side view. It is of the Acropolis in Athens Greece. The URL is; http://216.65.18.109/apollo/acropolis.jpg i really wish i could have shown something better, but all the detailed pix of the Acropolis is when its in ruins! hahaha go figure huh. thanks alot its really appreciated. sincerely spaz