i just saw this thread... man! geeeezzzz aint some people just a little bit touchy... anyway MAddog, Occdoug, Tjohn Dnamo and loates.... i know these people. been with them in the forums and i havent even ONCE seen them start and insult thread just to start an insult parade... i dunno why this has even to happen but im glad that its boiling down.... to stormi: i will apologize for any misunderstanding that you got... im pretty sure it was not intentional... i know these people and they are not like that... this is the worlds friendliest forum and the most helpful too, believe me, ive post from other sites and bryce forum at r'sity is the best to the others: well back to brycing guys! no need to let this go on further, storms ending (no pun intended) and everythings back to normal again... just makin peace... eyecon