FYI, there is another product out - at least at Fry's. Poser 4 with a ProPack in the box. Saw it 2 weeks ago when I finally dispaired of CL ever fixing Poser 5 so that it becomes an viable alternative to ProPack, and bought the Propack upgrade ($89 at Fry's). Can't remember but think it was $129 or $139 for the 'combo' pack. Less than the cost of buying the 2 packs separately - 2 x $89 at Fry's. I fear that the premature reference to 'Poser 6' is to start "softening us up" for paying $ for the real fixes to what ails Poser 5 - the unfixed Poser 4 legacy bugs. I predicted this when SR1 was released, that we'd be charged for the antidote. I wanted so much to be wrong on this one! But if they can't fix these issues in over a year, it's not just because Poser 5 was pre-released. There's been more than enough time to address it. It has to be that they don't feel the need, for whatever reason... Meanwhile Poser 5 sits on my harddrive only in case an useful SR is released. Normally I'd uninstall and reinstall later in this situation, but I just don't want to go through that Interlok debacle again - so it just sits there, spinning away unused. I did put in a question - about memory leaks, window focus, and loading all features into memory. But the Ack notice on submission makes me less than confident of a reply. The phrase was "all legitimate questions"! :-O