praxis, you make a valid point about "at least trying". But if the message he says he wants to bring is to ring true, why on earth mention Poser 6? I can't see any reason. It's too soon, and to me at least, raises questions of integrity. It's all what we could do tomorrow, rather than what we are doing today, to fix this mess. Re NW316's question on the memory and speed limitations today, Keohane started his reply with: "Our next step is to do another service release for Poser 5. After this we plan to start Poser 6, where we plan to tackle these issues." So I guess that equates to no real fixes in SR4 either, and no SR5. Sells me P5 before it's time, refuses to give me my money back, doesn't fix it in a year+, then expects me to shell out $'s for the fix? Sorry, customers learn from their mistakes!