Snide remark my arse... :) Though I'm gratified to be called an "oldie" "I'm ready for my close-up now Mr DeMille" :P But yes, it did reference the fact that a lot of people got very sniffy about the fact that Legume, annoyed with having his "art" deleted from the galleries, posted sacherine sweet fluff, we all voted it to the top, (at one point he had 15 of the top 20) people left, came back again, hilarity ensued. I believe he may still be found, or at least his ghost may, (praise Bob!) at renderotica, some of us you see don't take this very seriously at all. later jb