I had Norton and Eudora at work. Our IT support said everyone get outlook and McAfee. We will spoonfeed everyone updates because two or three can't figure out how to use it. I had no problem before. I got two last week. Five re: your details messages came today with attachments. I just throw them in the trash and pray that no one else lets them in. And I burned all my work on CDs just in case. Illigitum non carborundum my friend