Carolly: i saw highschool (or even university) students of 16 years old and above behaving like that too. I see your point and agree, and given my tastes and need, Yamato's Tenten/cancan serie and Maya's Mayadoll perfectly suits them, even if i have to tweak them a bit from time to time. Boefore knowing them i tried countless time to bend "so popular" vicky to my needs, without a success... though the problem is the characters do what i need but most of the wardrobe/clothes in various fields are on v2 only :( that is a problem... ransom of glory i suppose