Dave-So: To quote: "Maybe we should be worrying more about our freedoms being eroded in this country and the fact our brothers and sisters are being killed in Iraq...and the homeless and hungrey all over the world.. [snip] This place in the world should be for enjoyment. (sorry to go out of bounds, but it just hit me like that all of a sudden)" Agreed there are more important things in the world, but I'm not sure that we should argue that dodger shouldn't have started this thread in favour of advertisements just because there are more important issue in the world - or we'd never have any threads! Other than that, I haven't seen anyne arguing that (for example) the DAZ Millenium cat images should be moved - because (after all!) it's the potential buyers who have been askeing, in this forum, about the item. DAZ, technical (TRULY technical, involved stuff) and so on and so forth should all be adhered to in the first place. True the mods should ideally hold them all to the same level, but that'd be a lot easier if there was less policing required :) A failure to spot some transgressions doesn't (for me) make an argument that all transgressions should be llowed. Cliff