Statement after statement has come from Daz, all indicating that the Base program will remain free. Of course, I still do't know what that includes--but I can read. The Alpha gui has controls for x, y, z movement-- thus posing can be done in Daz Studio. We know it has a renderer, we know the name of the renderer and we know it has Open Gl support. At one point, people from Daz commmented-- this was on a forum at PoserPros-- that the release date had been reset, considering the upset over the inability to save. That's a pretty fair statement of what I remember. Doesn't mean that the first Beta will be save enabled, but I'm hoping it is. You do more work on something you can show off to its best and a screen capture is not optimum. Heck, the way some comments are going you'd think Daz Studio was something you imported V3 into and turned her around under lights then exported her to Poser to render. Might be moot for me anyway, I'm thinking of jumping ship for Carrara. Emily