exactly... which is why I like using Poser for posing :) I use Poser for posing all the time, its the best bang for the buck for character posing and animation. Just tired of the 'this renderer is better' crap when a great many of us don't even use the Poser renderer in the first place, not even Firefly. I use it to preview poses and scenes, to make sure figures aren't posed badly before export... I don't even bother to change the default lighting in Poser most of the time g