Hi Allerleirauh, Many thanks for your comment. I feel that I can learn more by listening to a negative one than by a dozen "gosh that is good" ones. It would help me enormously if you would be so kind as to explain in greater detail. The OBJ file is identical to the men's with the exception of the chest, abdomen and head. Bump maps, (incompleted at time of posting) almost identical also. I had wondered what to do for the breast plate. The Joan of Arc pictures that I saw were almost boyish, the Poser genre apparently calls for more form :) I felt that a cutaway version would defeat the object so went for what you see. I'm considering a caged visor to front the helmet and am still working on its bump map. Again my thanks PhilC pcooke@mis.net