Thanks, Veritas777, I looked at the western stagecoach photo, it looks great, it would be intersting to see a render of the model. Do you have any photo's of the harness used with these coaches? I havent't tried searching the net yet, so I might be able to find a suitable pic. It would be interesting to try, especially since it would involve more than one horse, and therefore likely to be a conforming 'challenge'. I need to sort out the conforming for the cab harness. If possible I want the harness to conform to the horse, but also for the reins to stay aligned with the cab. I have a couple of ideas to achieve that. I have seen the thumbnail for your harness, and I will download it as soon as I can, it looks really good. Cheers Ian