Well, the DAZ installer puts all the folders/files in the right place if you just make sure it finds the Poser folder. It takes care of the rest for you. Voluptuous Vicki 3 comes as a zip. If you have 'Use FOlder names' checked and then extract directly to the Poser folder, all the files will land up in the right places. Read the readme files for both sets of products and you'll know where to start and what to do - in which order. :] Fish