Forum: Poser - OFFICIAL


Subject: Unpopular but it needs to be pointed out (riposte)

_dodger opened this issue on Aug 19, 2003 ยท 75 posts


_dodger posted Wed, 20 August 2003 at 9:56 PM

So, like, KateTheShrew was like: 'When I want to know what's "new" in the marketplace, I gasp actually go to the marketplace and hit the "what's new" button. I know, it's a radical concept, but hey, whatcha gonna do?' That doesn't show you anything but what's on Renderosity. It doesn't who you what's new at DAZ. It doesn't show you what's new at RDNA. It doesn't show you what's new at 3DCommune. It doesn't show you what's new at any other site. Sure, you could go to those sites to see what's new, but things aren't going to be represented in a fair comparison basis in a single forum. Moreover, what about when a new site starts up? You're not going to even know about the site. One of the things about Renderosity that is nice (as opposed to places which I won't mention cough3DComnCough that have done some very insecure appearing things like insisting that no off-site products be advertised, Renderosity has been nice and allowed other brokerages to tout their wares in the PS forum here. KateTheShrew, I respect you on a lot of levels, but this whole 'I'm glad the merchants can't post their WIPs here so I don't have to see them, and if I want to see new things I'll look in the marketplace' argument is just bullshit. It's an example of the sort of segregation I'm talking about in pure form. Chuck, you may be right, though the subject at hand does very specifically relate to this forum and not other forums. It's about what should be posted here and thus of interest to those who post here and read here. One other thing to note, to all... Segregation is not the sort of matter that should be decided by a case of 'Majority Rules'. If it were, there'd still be four bathrooms in the establishments that even allowed blacks. There'd stil be sections on the bus, and Rosa Parks would have died in jail unremembered. The Chinese would only be allowed to live in Chinatown, and the gutterpunks would not be allowed by law to spange on the street or even hang out because people don't like the looks of 'em. Wait -- hang on -- that last one is true. When you let people vote themselves bread and circuses, they will -- and they'll vote that someone of a different 'class' (which is really what we merchants are) can't have them. As a result, I'm not appealing to a democratic majority. I'd guess that the democratic majority would be perfectly happy to discriminate against my art because I'm going to sell it and not allow me to show off my WIPs -- any of them because right now I have to spend ALL of my time creating things that will bring in money, and I don't have much time to make things that won't, or will even cost me money to host. I'm appealing directly to the sense of justice of the powers that be here to make a decision with fairness in mind. That means if WIPs by merchants that are intended to be sold when they are done aren't allowed, then WIPs by non-merchants shouldn't be, either. I'd like to categorise this to content creation... characters, textures, pose sets, props, and so on... but in all fairness, it should be applied to everything, even pictures, as ANY of us could at any time decide one of our works was good enough to sell and put it up on Zazzle or Cafe Press or get prints made to sell at a convention. That's a merchant WIP when that happens, even retroactively.