the red layer is only in the " mask mode just click on the normal mode to exit quick mask , plus when you copy the image inot the mode you automatily get the right selction, ( i think pasting the black white into the quick mask will work ) then "delete the area"" you may have to stich from normal to quick mask and back just to get agrasp on what things you ar effecting on the layer..tip hide a layer you are not working on just so you can watch what happens to it. hehehe