assuming you imbibed in the first place No, afraid you'll have to imbibe in th first place. 'll imbibe in the second place. If you have a head start I have a better chance B^) I was just agreeing with you, really. See, my goal isn't to get off-topic posts moved out completely, it's to have such posts be treated fairly -- and I'm coming from a point of view where I don't see any of the above as really being off-topic, because it's a cascade. Poser Tech is a subcategory of Poser. Product Showcase isn't, but most of the content is. A dissertation on reflection maps or a rant at Poser in general about why it will allow me to load two props from a figureResFile/geomHandlerGeom style load, but it won't save them to a file properly afterwards (just hit that one, grr), to me, is certainly Poser content. A show-off of one's latest costume for a Millenium Person is also Poser content. For sale or not. And, as much as I hate to admit it, that creepy looking toonimal fish is also poser content. I think it should all be welcome or, if sorting is gonna be mandatory, then it should all be pigeonholed.