These are great posts guys, thanks, before I finalize my poses (and Dan, that is very, very helpful), I'll wait and check your posts with Tina's site. I don't have them finalized yet because of time constrants and some lost files in about three moves in the past 6 months (computer moves that is.) But I will keep in touch as I want to get this out for our other users ... I especially think this will help the new users, although it could speed up the works of the pro's too, they wouldn't have to tweek the poses as much as before. Okay, a new frontier for Poser, I like that. Take care ... more to come. Boni

Boni

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