Personally, I don't have a problem with nudity per se, but I do tire of the typical poser porn: meaning images generated by horny idiots who get their rocks off by undressing poser women and objectifying them for their own sexual gratification on a public board. Oh, but it's ART. Yeah, right. Just be sure to zip up before mom comes in your room. Plastic-looking Barbi doll type of images say to me that the person has only one goal in mind. Take someone like Rosemary, who uses poser to represent real people in fractal-based art. THAT, to me, is a person mastering their artistic tools of choice, not their own joystick. So to me, I won't say that Lisa's image evoked that exactly (though she was sure to include a breast in the thumbnail, which lead me to believe she did that for the 'hit' value), just that it was amateurish art, in my opinion. The fact that it is amateurish isn't a bad thing -- after all, we all have to start somewhere, right? But then don't be an obnoxious know-it-all when someone comments upon your work. Anyone can make a generic frame like she did -- there are filters for Photoshop and PaintShop Pro that do it automatically -- I don't consider it a feat to match the colors, even a child could do that (I know you're just trying to be positive, Rosemary, I just disagree about that g). Also, just what the heck is she saying? I meant it when I said that the Jesus doppleganger looks either like he needs to take his meds or he's having impure thoughts. Someone said maybe she's concerned about her sexuality and weight?? WTF? What weight? To me it all goes back to her behavior here, in this thread -- that is the problem really. Don't talk about how wonderful you are -- an award-winning artist -- and turn out trite, amateurish crapola that first-year graphics students would be embarrassed of. And Kindergartner, no one here is fighting; we are having an adult discusssion. Run along, now and let the grownups chat.