I got around to checking out the link that PapaBlueMarlin posted and they have moved some of the arguemments to another Forum. I have to give him and those others credit for moving the arguemmentns about what should be aloud in the forum to another forum. They have shown me up for posting this thread. I am not taking a stand on either side of the issue of what should discussed in this forum and what should not be. This thread was a little fun on my part. They have every right to complain in this forum as others have showing off their new products. I am wondering why people feel the need to change things here at renderostity all the time when I am pretty much happy with the way things are. What is wrong with me that I am so happy?