Frankly, I don't think CL will produce a P6. I wouldn't bet on an SR4. EGISYS is in bankruptcy. Even if CL does make a P6, would anyone here actually risk buying it? Brand new software from a company that doesn't fullfill it's legal obligations to owners of the previous release, and that is in bankruptcy? Duh. Not me. We should have started the class action suit when we talked about it before. At least then we could be considered creditors in bankruptcy court. I don't think the first iteration of Daz Studio will be the wonder pill. I do think it's an excellent first step to a better product/platform. The approach they're taking may disappoint a few when they see the limits of Studio in the first beta, but in the long term I think we'll be a lot better for it. Note to te most excellent Cresent: I thought the "M" in EVM was "majority". I know more people who have problems or have just given up than I do satisfied P5 users. Leaving to go get on the boat. Unless there's free internet access on it, I'll see everyone in a week.